i just caught this in an upcoming study article which will be "studied" in the congregations the week of 11/18-24/13:.
he and his wife were elated when their eldest daughter, age ten, told them that she loved her parents, loved the brothers and sisters, and loved jehovah very much.
she said that she wanted to dedicate her life to jehovah and get baptized.
Baptized at 10. Very highly likelyhood to be out before 20.
When a person converts from other religion to JW and his family rejects him/her, The Watchtower calls this situation persecution. But if a young JW baptizes as a child, sees the light later and moves out, the expected rejection by other JW's is called a loving arrangement. Rejection after moving in is persecution and rejection after moving out is a loving arrangement. Nice!
i'm somewhat new here, even though i've posted a few times, so i decided it was time i properly introduced myself.
i've been lurking for several months.... .
i was born into the jw and served for 21 years.
Welcome! You are my type of guys. You like research and have an interest in History.
I learned the truth about the truth about a year and a half ago. My area of expertise is in the area of Astronomy and VAT4956 as it relates to Newbabylonian chronology. Send me a PM if you are interested in the subject. Fascinating stuff. People can make up dates and events, but nobody can control the orbits of the planets, the Moon and the Sun. They support beyond any doubt the accepted year for the destruction of Jerusalem in 587/586 BCE.
"this doesn't mean of course that i will allow posts of an obvious apostate nature or those that are abusive.
" - simon.
now this was 12 years ago.
Interesting!
with a release date of easter 2014, coming soon to a theatre near you: hollywood (tristar pictures) is capitalizing on the near-death-experience theme with a movie starring greg kinnear.
here's a hd trailer:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih8hmfinsbg.
C'mon guys. Enough of this skepticism. My mom, a Catholic, tells me that when she was in an accident about 40 years ago, she was lifted and saved by an angel (a train run over my Dad's truck, which stalled right on the top of the railroad tracks. He got out and away, my mom got out but no time to get away). She was thrown several meters away from the place of impact). She recovered from multiple fractures and broken bones several months later. More recently, about ten years ago, she was hit by multiple myeloma, a cancer from which very few survive. She is still alive and the cancer is gone. She assures me that she is here because God saved her. Contrast that with my sister in law's mom (a JW). She was diagnosed with breast cancer and 10 months later she was dead. The clear conclusion evidently is that there is a God and he is with Catholics. What more evidence do you need?
http://www.jw.org/en/news/
wouldn't it be nice if they said 'you know what, we've made millions in property sales recently, lets donate a couple million to a philipines relief fund..'
ten vans full, probably just for jw's.
How about donating to the Red Cross so more people can be helped? Oh, I forgot, they are dying soon in Armageddon. What's the point, the money will be wasted and a bad investment anyhow. Let us help only the ones who are worth saving, and are likely to contribute to the spreading of the good news, the upcoming slaughter of 7 billion.
http://www.jw.org/en/news/
wouldn't it be nice if they said 'you know what, we've made millions in property sales recently, lets donate a couple million to a philipines relief fund..'
ten vans full, probably just for jw's.
Their already big heads keep expanding. How about "Jehovah's Witness care..." After all the money the GB uses comes from donations from all JW's, and ultimately the heavy lifting of the relief efforts will be done by rank and file. Imagine Home Depot donating and the president of the company saying "The President of the Home Depot cares..." instead of the more appropriate reference to the Home Depot as a company.
6 months or so ago, me and my wife decided we will never set foot again in a kingdom hall.
about 4 months earlier than that, i stumbled upon an article about the wts being associated with the un.
that got me into finding out ttat eventually.
You bet it's a great return on investment. You just were in the wrong business before. Thank you for your great service to the cause of liberating the minds of people. I am working myself. i think I got one out. Time will tell. I got 6 more to go to match your record.
so today, two elders from a congregation i was in two years ago came by the house.
they said they wanted to talk to me about things that they have heard, and that they want to talk to me very quickly, as soon as possible.
perhaps before this week ends.. i don't know what to do!!
Stall. Don't meet. Get out of the house. You have an emergency. Run!
hi friends.
i would like to know your opinion on the following:.
situation:.
My situation is quite similar to yours, except for the fact that I have never been a JW. My two children are indoctrinated into a religion that I recently discovered is very dishonest and manipulative. Before, I thought it was a good religion. Now that I know TTATT, I refuse to let the deception continue. My children will be enslaved and be asked to sacrifice their dreams for the sake of the whims of few old men. Hell no! Not on my watch!
I don't know what is best for the short term. However, truth is always best in the long haul. If I were a kid (of course with the mind of an adult) and were able to choose, I would ask for the truth.
new world translation version ii:.
"from the days of john the baptist until now, the kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it".
new international version:.
Rob,
i just read your question again. You were asking about the version of NIV, not NWT. I am using a website (biblegateway.com), so I don't know what version it is.
Yes I agree. I very strongly doubt that the writers of ancient times (between 2,600 and 3,000 years ago) meant anything other than what is written. Irony and sarcasm are features of much later times.
